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好好辩论一下吧。事实是：
美国大学的学生已经不在写传统的“皇家”英语了，这就是他们用的日常用语，，，，我知道，他们的爸爸，妈妈正哭着呢，，，，呜，，，。

中国的留美学生一直都很擅长语法，拼写，句子结构，因为他们很擅长应对“考试”。

老实讲，这两类的学生我都教过（主要还是一美国大学英语系的为主），要知道这有多难呀，55555，，，因为他们认为如果他们能得个B，干吗还去费事得A呀，他们可以很轻松的上大学，他们总是抱怨我比别的老师“严厉”多了。

这就是“松散教育”的结果，，，，，现代英语。
我建议你读一些现代美国作家写的小说，这样你会知道我讲的是实话。
（从Colour Purple" or "Color Purple" 来看英语的最终发展趋势，，，你就会明白了）。

当每一个人都不写传统的皇家英语的时候，---错误的就变成正确的了。
我知道我们很多的中国学生都是从书本上学的传统英语，他们能怎么样呢，，，没有人对他们讲日常用语。

向中国学生敬礼，，，，，
中国学生在给美国学生的“街道英语”（生活用语）挑错上永远是对的，因为他们是从书本上学到的（也许很多年前的书了），他们的拼写非常的好，因为他们在“背”字典。但是中国学生们不是总能理解英文中的双关，和隐藏含义。

我的确是没在这里写英语，我在努力的写中国式的英语，这样可以和朋友容易沟通点。555，，，。
对的英语，错的英语，任何英语只要能沟通，就是好的英语。

在不同的地方读中文报纸，象广州，台湾，香港，新加坡，马来西亚，美国，我认为他还是中文，那些北京的学生也是这样想。

这不能阻止时代的发展，（用懒散的方式简化语言，）， 除了努力赶上去之外，，，，，，否则，我们怎么可以和这些懒散的学生交朋友呢。

事实上，我也的确喜欢这样。

可叹呀！你仍然不懂什么是真正的英语哟，虽然你曾学过。
嘲笑你所不懂的东西是豪无意义的。
如果你还要学习英语的话，就学现代英语。
我是被美国教育局通过的教师。这不是吹牛。

Embarrassing !
I am wondering why would any one make "joke" like this ?

It sounds like:

"If I cannot eat the grapes, the grapes must taste bad."
" If I don't understand your language, your language must be bad."

If you don't understand English, say it. I can help you.
If you want me to speak Chinese, this is the wrong way to ask."
You insulted yourself.

It is extremely embarrassing: particularly when he said he majored in English....
I don' know what is wrong with this man ?????
He did not stop insulting himself.

I was helping him at the beginning by calling "daily English" --"street English", so that he won't be so embarrassed.......but he did not help himself.
What can I do ?



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Sigh !! Looks like you still don't know "Real English" even though you studied English.
It is meaningless to laugh at something you don't know !
It is like the Chinese students laughing at the American college students.....
not knowing much English themselves (or forgotten, like you......)

If you need to learn English again, please learn "modern English"
I am certified by the Board of Education of the United States to teach English to American students.......sorry, I am not arrogant !

Sigh !!!


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Street English not Queen's English..........sorry !!

Read: "Colour Purple" (or "Color Purple" in lasy English)- a famous book written in "broken English" more broken than mine.....the Queen is 5555555555.....because it won book awards......55555 !
(It was made into a famous movie too)

Lazy boys and girls in the West speaks lazy English....like the
lazy boys and girls in Beijing speak lazy Mandarin.......
International lazy trend.................
(Don't curve their tongues, don't say complete sentences)

Sorry, daddy, mommy, grandpa, grandma.......uncle, big brother......we know you are........5555555555...!
Ice cream, OK ?
















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Good debate ! The truth is:
American college (university) students don't write traditional "Queen's English" any more. This is the "daily" language they use .......I know their daddies and mommies are crying.......55555555

The Chinese students in America are always better in grammar, spelling, sentence structure.....because they are good in preparing "examinations".

Honestly, I have taught both of these students (mainly American college students in English Department 55555.....555555), you know how difficult it is 55555........because they think if they can get a B, why bother to get an A.....they can go to universities easily......they complained I am too "strict" comparing to other teachers.
This is the result of "lazy education"...........modern English.
I would suggest you to read fictions written by modern American writers. Then you know I am telling the truth.
(read "Colour Purple" or "Color Purple" to keep up with the latest trend in English.........so that you understand)

When everyone don't write traditional Queen's English -- what is wrong becomes right !

Salute to the Chinese students........
Chinese students are always right in pointing out mistakes in American students' "street English" (daily English) because they learn from "books"(probably written many years ago).....and their spelling are very good, because they "recite" dictionaries........
But Chinese students don't always understand a lot of "double" and "hidden" meanings in daily language.

I must also tell you honestly, Chinese students are not good in "comprehension" (understanding) and "usage" of daily English no matter how good their grammar, sentence structure, and spelling are.
But what can they do ? They mainly learn from books and no one speaks to them in daily English.

I am actually not writing English here. I am trying very hard to write "Chinglish" (Chinese-English) for easy communication with our friends.
55555......5555....
Right English, wrong English......any English that communicates is good English.......

Read the Chinese newspapers in places such as Guangzhou, Taiwan, Hong Kong, Singapore, Malaysia, US......I think it is happening to the
Chinese language too....also the students in Beijing......
Look at the May 4th movement in China - it changed classical Chinese into what we are writing today.
Our grand fathers are crying too.....55555!

It is better not to stop the trend of modernization (by simplified the language -lazy method) but to catch up with it.......otherwise, how can we make friends with our lazy students ?
Actually, I love it !!!

Do you want me to continue with daily English or traditional book English ?

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Good translation ! Thanks !

Good translation ! Thanks !