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只看该作者 20楼 发表于: 2002-09-14
哪能个朋友有译星或金山快译的,给大伙译出来。
我的现在不是过去的结果
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只看该作者 21楼 发表于: 2002-09-14
Misunderstanding ! Tibetan Buddhism does not mean "Secret" Buddhism.

Buddha said he has taught nothing, said nothing in his 49 years of teaching.

He said, "Different methods comes to this world is to "cured" all the sickness in the heart of the people; if we have no sickness in our heart, we would not need any method."

840,000 Buddhists methods, and 36,000 Daosit methods are for the treatment of sickness in people's heart and mind.

All the schools under different name knows: the more advance you are, the simpler the method. The more pure your heart becomes, the less you needs in terms of method. Eventually,

"No method is the Greatest Method"; "No fixed method is tbe best method"

The Tibetan teachers, as well as other teachers and masters under whatever name know that "The univers" (the way) has no "secret", the Buddha has no "private secret or possession" in his hand.

Don't admire/jealous of those who has "secret method", "complicated method", "great method".... it means nothing, except reflection of sickness in their heart, that requires "heavy medicine" for treatment.

Advanced Tibetan methods (for example, the "Big Hand Method" DA SOU YIN visualization) just like Zen, like Dao, ....are very simple and easy, it goes back to the basic, simple, and purity of:

"Dao (the way) is just a matter of an ordinary heart"


If you have a lot of "greed" for methods --- how can you understand a master, if they said, the best method is "No method" ?

So, the very "theatric" mantras, rituals.....of Tibetan praictices at least can tied down your heart from worldly "cravings .......because you ask for it !!
If you are at level to accept the simple ones, the Tibetan teachers also has simple ones !!!!

You get what you ask for !



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只看该作者 22楼 发表于: 2002-09-14
金山快译 文理不通 将就看----
Misunderstanding ! Tibetan Buddhism does not mean "Secret" Buddhism.

Buddha said he has taught nothing, said nothing in his 49 years of teaching.

He said, "Different methods comes to this world is to "cured" all the sickness in the heart of the people; if we have no sickness in our heart, we would not need any method."

840,000 Buddhists methods, and 36,000 Daosit methods are for the treatment of sickness in people's heart and mind.

All the schools under different name knows: the more advance you are, the simpler the method. The more pure your heart becomes, the less you needs in terms of method. Eventually,

"No method is the Greatest Method"; "No fixed method is tbe best method"

The Tibetan teachers, as well as other teachers and masters under whatever name know that "The univers" (the way) has no "secret", the Buddha has no "private secret or possession" in his hand.

Don't admire/jealous of those who has "secret method", "complicated method", "great method".... it means nothing, except reflection of sickness in their heart, that requires "heavy medicine" for treatment.

Advanced Tibetan methods (for example, the "Big Hand Method" DA SOU YIN visualization) just like Zen, like Dao, ....are very simple and easy, it goes back to the basic, simple, and purity of:

"Dao (the way) is just a matter of an ordinary heart"


If you have a lot of "greed" for methods --- how can you understand a master, if they said, the best method is "No method" ?

So, the very "theatric" mantras, rituals.....of Tibetan praictices at least can tied down your heart from worldly "cravings .......because you ask for it !!
If you are at level to accept the simple ones, the Tibetan teachers also has simple ones !!!!

You get what you ask for !
众人昭昭 我独昏昏 众人察察  我独闷闷 以众人之有余 补我之若遗
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只看该作者 23楼 发表于: 2002-09-14
唉,都堂的英语早忘完了,看不懂啊!
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只看该作者 24楼 发表于: 2002-09-14
金山快译 原汁原味
误会 ! 西藏的 Buddhism 不 意谓 "分泌" Buddhism 。

佛佗说他有教无,无在他的 49 年教说。

他说," 不同的方法到达 这个世界是对 "治疗" 人的心所有的疾病;如果我们没有我们的心疾病,我们不需要任何的方法"。

840,000 Buddhists 方法,而且 36,000个 Daosit 方法是为疾病的治疗在人们的心和心理中。

所有的学校在不同的名字之下知道: 那较多的徒前术你是, 那比较简单的方法。 更纯粹的你心变成,你在方法的名词中需要的比较少量。 最后,

"不方法是最好的方法 ";" 没有固定式方法是 tbe 最好的方法"

西藏的老师,和其他的老师和主人在无论什么命名之下知道 "univers"(方式) 有不 "分泌",佛佗在他的手中有不 "二等兵分泌或所有物" 。

不 赞美/ 嫉妒的那些有 "分泌方法" , "复杂的方法","很棒的方法".... 它什麽也不意谓,在他们的心中除了疾病的反映以外,那需要为治疗 "重的药" 。

进一步的西藏方法 ( 举例来说,"大的传递方法"DA SOU 阴使看得见的) 仅仅像禅 , 像 Dao,....非常简单的和容易, 它回去基本的,简单者 , 和纯净:

"Dao(方法) 仅仅是平常的心一件物质"


是否你为方法有许多 "贪欲"--- 你如何能了解一个主人, 如果他们说, 最好的方法是 "不方法"?

如此,最,仪式.....西藏的 praictices 至少能系下你的心从世间的 " 渴望.......因为你自讨苦吃 !!
如果你是在水平接受简单的一些, 西藏的老师也有简单的一些 !!!!

你拿你所问的
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只看该作者 25楼 发表于: 2002-09-14
我练一下英文翻译,错了大家原谅.
误解!密宗并不是"秘密的"佛.
佛说在他49年的教导生涯中什么都没教,什么都没说.
他说:"此世中不同的方法是为了'治愈'人们心灵中所有的疾病,如果我们的
心灵没有疾病,那么我们不需要方法."
840,000种佛法,36,000种Daosit法是为了治疗人们心灵和思想上的疾病.
名字不同的所有学校都认为:如果你越高明,方法就越简单;你的心灵越纯,你所用的方法
就越少.同样的,
'没有方法是最伟大的方法','不确定的方法是最好的方法'
密宗师父,同其他师父和所有先知们一样,知道'宇宙'(道)没有'秘密',
佛的手里没有'个人的秘密'.
不要羡慕/妒忌一些拥有'密法','难法','大法'....的人.
除了从他们心里反射出来的病态,其实什么也没有,而这需要"重药"来治疗.
高级密宗的方法(例如'大手印')和'真','道'...一样,非常简单,非常容易,
它返回到最基本,最简单,最纯洁的一步:
'道只是平常心'
如果你对方法有太多的'贪心',那么,你怎么能理解一个先知,如果他们说
'最好的方法是没有方法?'
所以,密宗里大量的'戏剧'mantras,仪式,最少也能把你的心从对物质世界的渴望中
tied down ,因为你要的就是这个!
如果你能接受简单的方法,密宗师父也会有简单的那种.
你得到的是你所要的!
人为万物灵,物反胜如人.试看蛇含石,伏藏直到春.
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只看该作者 26楼 发表于: 2002-09-15
由于我们的无明,我们感到孤独和寂寞!由于我们恐惧,我们恐惧于世界的变化
无明是黑暗?任何黑暗都有光。无明是不明白?以有生而欲知无涯。
孤独寂寞,我们还正常吧?恐惧,可能没有吗?
我们大概当个傻小子,才是快乐的。那些东西,去他?
相携水云间,依风听暮蝉。 千山共君戏,五湖弄舟扁。
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只看该作者 27楼 发表于: 2002-09-15
真馨好厉害。粗扫了一下原文。应该不会有错误的。要我翻译还不会这么到位呢。佩服!
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只看该作者 28楼 发表于: 2002-09-15
看病下药,正对症状。
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只看该作者 29楼 发表于: 2002-09-16
是佛祖第一个灌的顶(根据多识活佛的经论)
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